Encore: Radical Healing as a Consciousness Shift Issue for Humanity - Clare Dubois, with Julia Neumann
Show notes
Clare Dubois is the founder of treesisters.org, a global women's organisation for reforestation which as of June 2024 had planted more than 28 million trees. Clare left Treesisters in October 2022 with burnout and has since focused on her Healing journey.
In this interview, she shared her personal experience with her recovery and trauma work, and also its relevance for the "bigger picture". With immense Clarity, she shares about the limitations of working with feminine principles in a patriarchal world, the damming of our internal rivers as women, internalised patriarchal values, and the necessity to dismantle our own obstructions to our power. She also speaks of being at source, and of turning towards yourself, of epigenetics, the importance of shadow work, and more.
This Radically Alive Women episode is rich with story through which Clare's Clarity comes through, and packed with her refreshingly clear observations and distinctions.
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Show transcript
00:00:14: This is radically alive
00:00:16: women's
00:00:16: age cast.
00:00:20: Today we are revisiting a conversation that many of you told us stayed with them.
00:00:26: Claire Dubois, founder of Tree Sisters the global reforestation movement has planted over twenty eight million trees which she built for over decade before her body finally forced to stop in twenty-twenty two.
00:00:41: In this episode of Twenty-Twenty Four Clare shares what came after The Collapse the trauma and shadow work, AND THE DISCOVERY.
00:00:50: THAT HER RADICAL HEALING – NOT THE PLANETARY WORK – IS NOW THE DEEPEST WORK OF HER LIFE.
00:00:57: She speaks with striking clarity about the limits of working through feminine principles inside a patriarchal system… About the rivers we dam inside ourselves to survive... And about the necessity of dismantling our own internalised patriarchal obstructions.
00:01:15: This interview is worth revisiting several times, because these are universal themes in which you will be able to recognize yourself.
00:01:25: Now almost two years on we believe it's safe say that Claire was right.
00:01:31: the Times are even edgier today than they were at this time of conversation.
00:01:48: her for, you know I'm embodying the possibility of crawling out from underneath my own massively internalized patriarch.
00:01:57: I mean i was a monster.
00:02:00: that journey of self-liberating and being able to understand...I am not that we are NOT THAT!
00:02:09: We're not what's been taught or cultured into nothing to do with who And I think it's a pretty scary time to be alive, but i think its an incredible time.
00:02:26: It doesn't get more edgy than this and two years from now there will be decidedly more edgys... But nevertheless we're in the birth canal!
00:02:41: Where We Go From Here really is determined by the courage that we have to go inside and reclaim ourselves.
00:02:56: Hey, welcome to Radically Alive Women aged cast Clair du Bois!
00:03:00: I'm really glad you're here.
00:03:03: It's lovely to be here
00:03:05: And i admit...I am also a bit scared that you are because You have a voice?
00:03:09: My fear is not a problem.
00:03:11: it just tells me yeah..i'm here with the woman who has her voice and along for this in the world To hear women speak.
00:03:21: When I reached out to you, thanks to friends that said hey!
00:03:24: You've got to speak with Claire Du Bois.
00:03:28: You pointed out the planetary regeneration is not really your topic right now.
00:03:32: it's more personal regeneration and i would love to hear from you a bit more about where you're at?
00:03:40: And what's moving in you?
00:03:41: What's alive in
00:03:42: you?".
00:03:45: Well...I don't think anybody expected me to step down.
00:03:55: The persona I had in the world was a very strong one, as the founder and front person of a global women's movement.
00:04:03: And...I thought that for the rest of my life- I think everybody though it would be like this all day long!
00:04:18: And I founded Tree Sisters, and co-founded it with a wonderful woman.
00:04:23: My dance teacher called Bernadette back in England.
00:04:27: We did not know what we were doing.
00:04:28: It was like...I was given this brief from life In A Car Crash!
00:04:31: And..it was just huge & enormous & frightening & i had zero experience.
00:04:37: & yet I couldn't argue With the fact that women understanding The nature of their own bodies as Nature & rebuilding them a relationship with the natural world to the extent that you would want to protect and want to nurture, and want reforest which is what we were doing tropical reforestation.
00:05:00: It made sense.
00:05:00: I was like okay well i'm gonna have to try but um...I didn't manage do it in any way.
00:05:07: that was healthy for myself!
00:05:10: I carried vastly too much responsibility And..i was running the pain of the planet through my body on a daily basis because to separate from, you know essentially environmental catastrophe which is what we're going through.
00:05:27: and if you are in the world of trees.
00:05:29: You know we funded planting I think twenty four million trees by the time i resigned but we lose between fourteen and forty million trees a day.
00:05:41: so...I didn't feel like I scratched the arse off the issue frankly But y'know what was really trying?
00:05:48: do it help women work with woman which we did beautifully.
00:05:51: actually it was amazing and wonderful i miss terribly.
00:05:56: But I couldn't stop like I could not stop.
00:06:00: there is just this constant drive inside me partly despair what's going on with the planet, and partly because i was driving over top of a vast amount of trauma.
00:06:15: So there was these big splits and fractures inside myself.
00:06:18: And they were all suppressed down, then I was doing the self-validatory dance over top of it where its like you know unconsciously we will do anything not to feel stuff.
00:06:31: that are nervous systems on our minds or bodies basically said thats too much can't handle it gonna suppress them.
00:06:40: two years before i left went an had a astrological reading And he was like, no.
00:06:47: No let's do Tarot and I'm saying that let us do
00:06:49: astrology.".
00:06:50: He said,"No Let's just do Taros.
00:06:52: we did this taro spread".
00:06:54: Wow!
00:06:54: Well... This whole spread is major arcana and you don't have any choice.
00:07:01: it will be taken away from you.
00:07:02: You are going to lose everything and you might as well quit now because its gonna take them away.
00:07:11: if you dont then its really gnarly.
00:07:17: You have to stop everything.
00:07:18: your body needs Arrest like you have to Stop Everything and if you don't, you will be stopped.
00:07:24: And I'm like no that's not happening anytime soon.
00:07:27: Like not a chance Let's ask a different question.
00:07:29: so we asked the Different Question.
00:07:31: did another spread?
00:07:33: He was like well?
00:07:35: We might as Well quit now because he gonna lose everything.
00:07:38: we did three spreads.
00:07:39: they all said The same thing and i didn't listen Because I couldn't comprehend Not doing tree sisters.
00:07:48: It was me it was what I?
00:07:51: Was for.
00:07:52: it was my life purpose, it was The answer you know like oh my god.
00:07:57: anyway.
00:07:58: so What he said came true.
00:08:00: it was horrible it was a difficult ending and i got very sick.
00:08:06: i You know it was touch-and-go but me there's that complete physiological breakdown all systems And which turned out to be severe heavy metal poisoning, pesticide poisoning mold poisoning.
00:08:18: I didn't know i had the mould and so I was starving!
00:08:23: I'd gone into a cellular defence mechanism or cell danger response essentially where the cells basically shut down... And they've been shut down probably from the majority of my life because I'd be poisoned living in home with lead pipes that have severe moulds.. ...and I just hadn't realised why couldn't get rid of the metal.
00:08:40: it's because of the mould.
00:08:42: So I'd had an endocrine collapse and a digestive collapse, my mind was on it.
00:08:46: It was like not all right.
00:08:48: My brain is full of metal And one by one my systems were going down and I was still working sixty seventy hour weeks over the top of it.
00:08:58: and so life just went smack we're taking you out and complete incapacitation.
00:09:06: had to leave resign and ride at the point letting the board know that I was gonna have to go because my health was taking me out.
00:09:19: I decided to make a journey back to my childhood home in England, and live in California And... My father was their headmaster.
00:09:28: it was at boys boarding school.
00:09:30: i lived in a boy's boarding school.
00:09:32: He was part of a pedophile ring and..I Was one Of The Kids That Was Part Of The Pedophile Ring When I Was Growing Up and Stuff Went Down In That school that I'd never been able to go back and just never being able to come back, address it.
00:09:53: And... It turned out there was a new girl's unboyed school instead of headmaster which is safe for me to reach this woman and say.. ..I need to come!
00:10:08: I NEED TO COME TO YOUR PERSONAL QUARTERS!
00:10:11: This what happened but the school actually burnt down after my father was removed.
00:10:18: And so what happened to me is not in your home anymore, energetically it's been burned out.
00:10:23: and yeah I need to come see the rebuilt building.
00:10:26: i needed put a new memories where they old ones were.
00:10:31: she wrote back and said whatever you need however we can help like she was just an angel for me!
00:10:39: So he went back to England.
00:10:41: then he went.
00:10:44: She let me go into her quarters on my own.
00:10:46: And then she sat me down and said, Claire I want to go the police.
00:10:49: it was never reported what happened to you?
00:10:51: And they say no that i wanna get.
00:10:54: at least this is relevant.
00:10:58: your question by the way not just a long ramble.
00:11:02: There's no point.
00:11:03: he died like twenty years ago when there are people looking for the paedophiles of the seventies and eighties.
00:11:12: other kids will have been involved.
00:11:15: you know what happened to him afterwards and I was like, yeah he went on the next school.
00:11:18: And it went onto the next call because nobody reported them.
00:11:20: cause of the fear of hurting this calls reputation until the pedophile division if they're Northumberland police an eye got to speak to them end at that time when she said a I was just like okay whatever i'll talk to them but its not gonna change anything.
00:11:37: And then day before actually go to speak today I collapsed.
00:11:42: I couldn't understand what was going on, my body stopped working and we were up in the mountain at Lake District.
00:11:50: And I started falling...and Mark caught me!
00:11:55: ...And i went into a state of terror- The terror was that.. ..I was gonna be caught & found out & realized That I'd been carrying the monster that my father was as ME all my life.
00:12:11: even though psychologically I'd been aware of that possibility, i couldn't access it.
00:12:16: Couldn't get to it until the first person in my life which was Kate The Headmistress said what happened to you?
00:12:23: Was a crime!
00:12:24: It was a crime.
00:12:26: and her support and then their incoming energy of the police gave me system enough resource to spit the lie up.
00:12:37: And the reason I tell you that story is because, at that moment when suddenly inside me... ...I was able to shift from, oh my god no!
00:12:46: My dad's a monster.
00:12:47: Oh my God there it is!
00:12:48: The key turned in comes as support All myself validatory behaviour.
00:12:56: That was the striving over-the top of the sickness Dissolved In that moment and then my body was like i can't do anymore of Claire the environmentalist that I'd been for however many years, no like probably fifteen sixteen years.
00:13:18: She left a building and what took its place was... And now it's you!
00:13:28: You know?
00:13:29: Now we rebuild this body.
00:13:31: It is time to trauma work.
00:13:33: The past needs to be removed from your body.
00:13:38: then were going build in yourself.
00:13:40: we're going to build a new life on the top of an actual congruent foundation, not this just living over the top all these fracturing and all those trauma.
00:13:52: So that's what happened.
00:13:54: I mean literally turned on in time.
00:13:57: it was gone where this insane push had been with complete flatline i would have believed is possible like turn corner.
00:14:09: So now, you know I live with my husband Mark who's another avid environmentalist.
00:14:14: And he is like do want to come this?
00:14:15: Do you wanna listen to that?
00:14:17: No no!
00:14:18: Like there is nothing in me That can engage environmentally.
00:14:23: Nothing unless i'm making soil growing my food.
00:14:27: You know...that..I totally do Being a nature have be in nature need to be still in the trees But I cannot engage environmentally.
00:14:37: It has
00:14:38: dropped so deeply into my own process of recovery and healing, that I'm back where it was before i became an environmentalist which is essentially this-is-consciousness shift issue for humanity.
00:14:53: This is our psyches made visible.
00:14:55: what we're doing the repair job is epic epigenetic trauma work.
00:15:01: thats required in order us to defracture And... We cannot create a coherent world unless there's coherent selves.
00:15:09: So I'm doing that work.
00:15:11: And i actually feel now, what im doing with the trauma-work?
00:15:17: it's easily the deepest work of my life and its'easily most important because Im in the stuff.
00:15:24: how do you heal a human being?
00:15:29: How do your healing human beings to the extent then whats going to arise through them from this point is only gonna be an expression for coherence & health.
00:15:37: Tree scissors was absolutely beautiful but wasn't healthy because of the insane hard work that it was.
00:15:45: If you burn yourself out doing what your not in balance, there was no balance and I can understand.
00:15:51: trying to do something through feminine principles in a patriarchal world that demands measurables is never gonna allow you to operate.
00:16:00: the way that would need to operate be integrity with wisdom living systems.
00:16:06: we couldn't try everything.
00:16:09: I think that worlds up ahead where it might be possible, but... ...I didn't manage.
00:16:14: That's my very long answer to your
00:16:16: question.".
00:16:17: Thank you!
00:16:18: I deeply resonate with this necessity of being fully in integrity because the revolution actually happens here first and what comes out for me is also….
00:16:27: I heard you on another interview speak about de-patriarchalising yourself or something like that.
00:16:33: You know, it's not about healing patriarchy because patriarchy cannot be healed.
00:16:38: It is like...it's more about removing yourself from it.
00:16:42: that's how I would see it.
00:16:44: Removing every-I would start with women.
00:16:47: when women really remove themselves from patriarchy in here or removed patriarchy out of their system That's the healing work.
00:16:56: Then this new systems can be born through many through women for the feminine and men holding space for it.
00:17:03: Also, It's not about women against man but this necessity to really birth the feminine And that means to make space or these new ways of being That we might not even know how they go.
00:17:18: Yeah There are two ways I look at it.
00:17:20: In fact there is probably lots a way i look at them But theres two easy to visualise what ways you're looking At.
00:17:27: one is like The river of soul.
00:17:32: the river of the soul has been damned multiple times.
00:17:36: Like there's dam after dam, like one of the hardest things for me about moving to America was discovering that almost every river is damned multiple time here and they're all turned on-and off so they go up and down being in a river that's rising.
00:17:52: it's just like what's going on?
00:17:53: And I'm like you mean this isn't a wild river.
00:18:03: And it was just like, wow.
00:18:05: Okay well that's what has been done to women.
00:18:08: I mean actually truthfully its whats being done for everybody men and women and everyone in between.
00:18:14: That is alive right now because we've so conditioned into the patriarchal format of what value is What is acceptable?
00:18:25: How a human is supposed to fit into a system thats essentially sick.
00:18:31: But when i realised with the dams is... The river, it's a river.
00:18:36: You can't get away from the river like the River Is the Soul!
00:18:39: The soul is perfect and complete unharmed.
00:18:43: but then there's how we've coped With the traumas that We have been going through And its just Like Okay I need to shut That part off.
00:18:50: This is too much.
00:18:52: Let us hide this.
00:18:54: So the Dams that were Damned up are also our own energy.
00:18:58: We done the damming And so it's like the river gets less and less available to us because we've become so modified, and compromised.
00:19:10: But where are the mortar?
00:19:12: Where're the
00:19:13: bricks?".
00:19:15: That process of undamning ourselves or reclaiming our selves... Nobody else can do that for us!
00:19:22: We have to be aware how much that affects us whether they were willing keep living that way and then do the work of dismantling.
00:19:32: Dismantling our own obstructions to our own power, you know?
00:19:40: The internalized patriarchy we've all got.
00:19:42: it's just like how we've sucked up this system in order to be acceptable in a world has these codes that make no sense in accordance with life and living systems.
00:19:54: And light of you is like this irrepressible brilliance that is source, a spirit.
00:20:08: And then there's these Russian dolls or the containment or the veils, the stains... The energetic structures are our light trying to shine through and we're trying.
00:20:29: When you turn towards yourself, everything that's between you and your self is debris.
00:20:37: Call it the dams in the river or we could call it the stains that we've internalized And physiologically That our epigenetics.
00:20:43: You know this isn't mine This belongs to my lineage.
00:20:46: This was...this Is a encodement of DNA with all The on-off genes.
00:20:52: There are the history Of My Lineage.
00:20:55: Then there's my soul that is sitting In It.
00:20:57: So my soul light is illuminating the epigenetic story of my ancestors right here.
00:21:04: There's nothing I can do to get away from that, so there's a basin full of inherited trauma that's there and gifts as well.
00:21:13: but my experience now is when i can come back to the Light That I am and become aware enough for it feel where its pressing up against Where Im Not the lies that are internalized is, there's everything other than we all love and we're a source.
00:21:37: We are perfect.
00:21:38: anything thats not bad as a lie.
00:21:40: then when you remove your energy from the stains or debris bring it back to the source of who you were.
00:21:47: when you bring them up in depth with yourself this dissolves!
00:21:52: It
00:21:52: dissolves!!
00:21:53: It
00:21:53: changes!!!
00:21:55: And...we don't get control.
00:21:57: What happens to that?
00:21:59: We get to control how deeply connected to ourselves we are, and that seems us to determine the rate of dissolution or liberation out of what we're not.
00:22:16: So I think the homecoming —or the invitation— is really be so aware born of dissociation and fracturing.
00:22:35: And to be able see it, pull our energy out like to divest not buy into the manipulation in a fear mongering or war-mongering.
00:22:50: just look at that as play of the stains against each other.
00:22:59: Let's not ask, let us know what we are.
00:23:01: That is an expression of a large amount of undigested pain.
00:23:05: Okay well whats my job in that?
00:23:07: My job to understand how my pain hooks into it and gets dragged-in and get subsumed How I make conscious enough to disengage Come back the love i am And be able approach all this from connected love Create different currency which is a conscious love over here, and then use that to create like a magnetic vortex.
00:23:39: Like a vortex that's spinning in the way it calls more of the love.
00:23:48: so you know self-strengthen.
00:23:51: And thats where I was just helping open a goddess conference.
00:23:56: That originated out from the Tibetan myth before I created three sisters, which is when a thousand goddesses gather.
00:24:05: The divine feminine will rebirth through their combined energies and the frequency of the planet will shift from one affair to another
00:24:11: love.".
00:24:12: And so there's this ancient Tibetan myth or invitation that says When enough conscious women dissolve their ego sufficiently to merge you can become a gateway for the birthing of a completely different, a completely next octave.
00:24:36: I mean God knows how many octaves up.
00:24:39: the sacred feminine principle that is alive in all of us can bridge-in and create a different reality?
00:24:46: And the Kogi, Colombian Kogi indigenous leaders will say only that originates out of feminine principles.
00:24:57: survive at the end of two thousand twenty six.
00:24:59: from then on it's It can be a hell of different world.
00:25:04: Anyway, so our as women taking responsibility for it's not a word but I call that the re-sacredization of the feminine like our conscious claiming Of what is essentially deep cosmic and earthly feminine power life force As sacred that being core of our awareness, what we are.
00:25:36: That starts to change everything and thats where we need each other.
00:25:39: it's in sisterhood.
00:25:42: its the forest floor roots.
00:25:44: woven together We hold one another and become that gateway To a higher consciousness waiting for us to wake up who she is.
00:25:57: Notice my sadness or longing and I guess it's not able to accelerate other than showing up.
00:26:06: And every one woman showing up really makes a difference, well-preciated that you're showing up for
00:26:13: them.".
00:26:15: Well...to the world!
00:26:16: I've disappeared but actually in myself i'm showing up For my self..for her You know?
00:26:26: I am embodying possibility of crawling out from underneath massively internalized patriarch, I mean was the monster.
00:26:35: You know that journey of self-liberating and being able to understand...I am not THAT!
00:26:43: We are NOT THAT!
00:26:45: WE'RE NOT THAT, we're not what we've been taught or cultured into nothing to do with who and where actually.
00:26:54: And it's a pretty scary time but an incredible time.
00:27:02: It doesn't get more edgy than this.
00:27:08: And I mean, two years from now it'll be decidedly more edgier but nevertheless we're in the birth canal and where we go from here really is determined by The courage that we have to go inside and reclaim ourselves like our own capacity to tune ourselves, to the frequency of our choice as opposed to the default manipulative chaos that we're swimming in.
00:27:44: It's just lies.
00:27:45: far as I can make out there is access to truth In here like a heart are woven into the mainframe Of creation and the main frame was about to get very interesting.
00:27:58: And their mainframe includes you know a galactic Like when all alone in the universe no way Are we alone in the universe?
00:28:06: And you know, that's been my experience since childhood.
00:28:10: So it's like I'm super clear because i've lived it but It's coming!
00:28:15: Like The world... There is a rupture and off-planet civilisations are around.
00:28:22: You just have to look up at night.
00:28:24: they're around increasing their presence.
00:28:26: so there Is cosmic birthing also happening for our planet And we're here for that.
00:28:34: We've chosen to be here, so it's just a very intense time to be alive For all of us.
00:28:41: Very, very intense Time To Be Alive.
00:28:43: Yeah
00:28:44: and then when you get to choose Do I say yes or do we numb ourselves?
00:28:49: One thing You spoke off in the twenty-twenty interview was That A friend said her son Women are learning to do magic.
00:29:00: I relate that to the journey you're on.
00:29:03: The magic is really in here, it's about this connecting with the source each of us is and then being connected to unseen forces and honouring them making use all resources there are beyond our
00:29:19: humaneness.".
00:29:21: I was told by a channel guard back in two thousand fifteen.
00:29:27: they basically said Amazing talking to them actually, but they said Claire if you don't stop You're gonna be dead in three weeks.
00:29:37: This is like I mean my health was already really compromised back then.
00:29:41: If we don't Stop judging your species you're going to be dead and two weeks And that requires you to stop looking at everything That is dead and dying all the different systems that are struggling.
00:29:51: Everything there is going extinct.
00:29:52: Like you have to literally pull your attention out of that Because you're poisoning a body with it.
00:29:59: start looking at everything that is growing and healing, regenerating.
00:30:02: You've got to hook back into the energies of health on the planet or you will die!
00:30:09: And I'd never been so kind-of like they were.
00:30:11: literally hello.
00:30:12: can we be frank with you?
00:30:14: You have three weeks to live.
00:30:15: it was just boom smack whoa.
00:30:19: no i'm not used to channeling anything being quite in your face but very strong message of you need to divest your attention from everything that is dying.
00:30:36: And you need invest your attention into every thing.
00:30:40: it's regenerating and healing was such a powerful, powerful pivot point learning point.
00:30:51: Learning how-to because its not denial Okay, everything's peachy.
00:30:59: I'm just going to look at what growing.
00:31:00: it's like It all still there but is learning how to arrange your awareness that you can be with without being flooded with it Without Like digesting into yourself was like its their every thing.
00:31:15: this go on the world i can see a present to not deny about and looking away from it We've got to very careful.
00:31:22: we eat Emotionally mentally because we're making ourselves out of all the input that's coming in.
00:31:31: So unless you can filter the input and bring in what's nourishing, then we're gonna get
00:31:39: poisoned.".
00:31:41: And so this word really struck me again when you said it-the choice!
00:31:46: Like what were choosing?
00:31:49: Where are we orient?
00:31:50: What do plug into?
00:32:01: with discernment, With that innate body wisdom.
00:32:06: That knows that can feel this drops my energy.
00:32:09: This lifts my energy like how we value ourselves enough not to let our selves get sucked down into the morass and actually To grow them.
00:32:20: muscles of Such radical levels of self-care Like discernment.
00:32:28: Energetic discernment is such a ground of actual self-care.
00:32:33: You know, there's the all arresting and whatever else that we need to do in order to recover ourselves.
00:32:40: but the awareness, tuning fork... what is healthy for me right now?
00:32:48: What is nourishing from you right
00:32:49: now?!
00:32:50: What regenerates me right
00:32:51: NOW?!
00:32:54: They also told me I was a proxy for Gaia!
00:32:59: Running my life as an experiment to see how far can you push a human body before it dies?
00:33:07: How far Can You Push A Planet Before It's So Far Gone?
00:33:12: There'S No Reclaiming Her.
00:33:15: And so I've also, because i've gone through what she has done very loudly and So then it really has been a case of, okay when you've got an almost full system collapse going on.
00:33:35: How do you like is it possible to pull this body back?
00:33:39: Can I bring myself that?
00:33:41: and just even in the last two weeks...I mean i've been sick with another round of COVID but even during that time I was just like Okay!
00:33:50: I am so damn sick.
00:33:52: That means my system is open..that means pull stuff out.
00:33:59: I did it right over solstice, so i'm sick at the most powerful time of the year major full
00:34:05: moon.".
00:34:05: It was like okay!
00:34:06: I'm going to trauma work my way through this illness-I'm gonna use the disintegratory assistance of illness to purge and...my body until I was in my mid twenties couldn't swear at all.
00:34:24: that system was shut down.
00:34:27: then at the end of a passionate ten day meditation retreat and on Day eight I had a massive breakthrough, And i started to sweat A little bit.
00:34:36: So I have sweated a Little bit all my life like just enough To sort of- My mother would say glow You know?
00:34:43: Just become a little bit dewy.
00:34:45: But you put me in a sauna...I Would never drip.
00:34:48: Like dripping was not In my repertoire!
00:34:51: And in The middle Of this illness and the trauma work that I Was doing.. I was remembering past Life where I was skinned alive as a woman.
00:35:01: And that trauma of losing my skin, is what was preventing me from sweating.
00:35:08: and so i went through this healing process over the course of trauma sessions where I grew my skin back.
00:35:15: The second I grew My Skin Back I started sweating like a waterfall Like A Frigging Waterfall!
00:35:22: Like I sit in the sauna now put my head down water dripping off my eyelashes like drip, drip.
00:35:31: I've got the river of my skin back!
00:35:33: Like who knew?
00:35:34: Who knew that?
00:35:36: what was inhibiting
00:35:38: THAT?!
00:35:38: My body couldn't detox.
00:35:40: it's part of reason why i'm so poisoned.
00:35:42: The body can't detox okay.
00:35:53: I was able to take down the dam with my awareness, and the river started flowing immediately.
00:35:58: Like.
00:35:58: it's an enormous change.
00:35:59: this is the biggest organ in my body.
00:36:02: It is now fully functioning.
00:36:04: i am detoxing like a fiend...I can sweat And its'like.
00:36:08: yeah This Is The Truth About The Nature Of Things.
00:36:12: When there is sufficient consciousness Sufficient willingness A Deep Enough Choice To Recover Recovery of Like it's a massive system in my body.
00:36:25: It just come online overnight Literally over night.
00:36:30: now, that's not overnight because there's been an awful lot of trauma work to get to the place where I was ready and strong enough.
00:36:34: deal with bat cuz That was gnarly.
00:36:37: but There is recovery like Night and day An hour apart.
00:36:46: so i look at The regeneration of my own body.
00:36:52: thats going on.
00:36:53: the strength The amount of consciousness.
00:36:57: It's taking.
00:36:58: the choicefulness that it's taking and its just I get.
00:37:01: we have no idea what We're capable off like, we are so powerful You know And i've been doing that largely solo mean?
00:37:09: I've got amazing support system around me.
00:37:11: but when women gather Like really gather and Really choose and really understand who we are and really tap in an allow That greater energy to come through us Oh you can change the surface of this planet.
00:37:24: I mean, that was why Detrisis is in the first place.
00:37:27: I know it's true when women come back into our power collectively and there had to be a reason why we have three hundred years of witch burnings like The fear of feminine power on this planet so damn strong.
00:37:41: well she isn't going allow her to stay suppressed.
00:37:45: It's against life.
00:37:47: if Life is stronger than male egos you know its stronger then patriarchy.
00:37:54: We don't understand why we have to go through these cycles.
00:37:58: Why that was a necessary part of our evolution with patriarchy, but we're coming out of it or in the death rows of it.
00:38:05: That's why its so ugly right now.
00:38:08: It's trying to dissolve itself.
00:38:11: I believe that because it's not true.
00:38:15: The truth is the masculine bows To the feminine and the feminine bowels to the masculine And there is this beautiful union between the two.
00:38:23: That's the truth, that's what we're going home to.
00:38:25: We have to go into it because that is the Truth of Life and Truth will always win
00:38:30: ultimately.".
00:38:32: The aspect I'm noticing as you speak also this shadow – the necessity for the shadow work where women have played along in patriarchy.
00:38:41: every woman without supporting patriarchy or making ourselves small whichever way would support a patriarchy wouldn't exist.
00:38:50: so there was transformation forced in our own unconscious.
00:38:55: I heard you mentioned that before, then it's about becoming conscious and i believe that know a bit about shadow work?
00:39:03: Do you have anything to say about this?
00:39:07: I so much experience of shadow work at this point...I mean my life has been a life of recovery really from my upbringing and its being more shadow than light frankly but the suppressed parts of ourselves as our own internal prison system.
00:39:31: Like we've got this horrendous, you know military-industrial prison system on our planet well... We have them inside us also!
00:39:41: And I'm really including our epigenetics in there because it's encoded all over our ancestry where and coped over the top, all the lies or deceits.
00:39:59: All the horrors of what humanity is capable of doing... And massive difficulty!
00:40:07: Massive, massive difficulty.
00:40:11: We haven't had a culture on this planet that knows how to-.
00:40:15: No I'm telling you lie.
00:40:16: we have had cultures on this Planet.
00:40:18: it's like when you hear Pat McCabe an amazing dinner light warrior woman stands shining When you hear her talk about the Native American cultures, first nations of this continent who believed in original beauty rather than original sin.
00:40:34: And if somebody went off the rails it was considered a community issue because they had failed them sufficiently that they started misbehaving and so instead being sent away to jail would be brought back into communities which take responsibility for helping reconnecting their original beauty.
00:40:53: Sin is collective failing, and so the community came back into healing to help the individual heal.
00:41:03: Back to their original beauty.
00:41:04: when I first heard her talk about that I bawled my eyes out.
00:41:08: it was like oh My god there It is!
00:41:11: Like over here we've got with a Western world's its sin.
00:41:15: You're born in to sin you live Sin.
00:41:18: then if your lucky get go to heaven.
00:41:20: meanwhile were gonna incarcerate the most traumatized people on our planet who can't manage their pain and so they're acting out.
00:41:28: So inside each of us, I or inside myself I'll speak for my self.
00:41:33: i just found like is called it Like The Mansion Of Myself With All These Different Wings And They Were All Walled Off And I'd Like Lock To The Doors And Then A Wall Paper Over Them.
00:41:44: It's Like They Don'T Exist.
00:41:45: This Doesn't Exist this doesn't exist.
00:41:47: but they do these agonised parts of Us That Are Lurking Around devoid of all love, with our rampant self-rejection going on that just pushes up again and so they're looping in their misery constantly.
00:42:04: And then she's like oh my god I'm feeling this again!
00:42:06: And i've got this going on...and it says yeah there screaming for Love.
00:42:12: these parts of us are screaming for love and we're so afraid Recover from it and where we cry forever.
00:42:26: It's just like doesn't work that way.
00:42:29: Parts of us there are walled off That have been rejected Are?
00:42:35: parts of us that carry pain, but is essentially I believe anyway in my experiences an absence Of love?
00:42:43: she's an absence of Love Like this the whole octave of lovelessness that goes all The Way From Like Depression to Homicidal Horrificness.
00:42:55: like I'm gonna strap bombs to my body and take down a school.
00:42:58: You know, it's like That's the person into severe pain that's a person whose Pain is so severe.
00:43:07: Only killing others in the most horrendous way even begins to scratch that itch you know And everything in between.
00:43:13: and I have a killer inside me.
00:43:17: i've had that desire.
00:43:17: when I watch people beat children In front of me II could pick up A gun.
00:43:21: it's Like okay.
00:43:23: So Nobody else can come in here and do the work of making conscious all The dissociated fractured off parts of myself that are have been sitting in lovelessness possibly for a time immemorial through my epigenetics.
00:43:41: Only person who's capable or flooding enough love in here to be able to unlock those chains And bring those parts of me into conscious awareness where I can Listen and understand, and flood them with love.
00:43:57: And bring them back in so that the fracturing in here dissolves into a unification That then allows light of my own soul to shine through something that is coherent.
00:44:10: So I have an option To bring coherence to life Through whatever i create from here on rather than something trying to be coherent or trying to look coherent, but actually is always going to be fractured because you don't get to choose what your light shines through.
00:44:26: It shines through whatever you are and if it's full of fractures in shadow and undigested trauma that's what you're gonna bring to the world no?
00:44:34: And You're Gonna Bring It Not Because You're Bad!
00:44:36: You're Going To Bring It Because Its Asking To Be Made Conscious.
00:44:40: So to me Shadow Work Is Like...It'S The Way Home.
00:44:44: It'S THE WAY BACK TO WHOLENESS.
00:44:46: IT'S THE WAY BACK TO HEALTH wholesome, unified world.
00:44:52: Because everything that we express or create in this world is a reflection of what's going on inside.
00:44:58: and so unless that work has done... Unless we can bring ourselves back into coherence We're only ever gonna create more incoherence.
00:45:07: So there's like this moment now I'd be like wow!
00:45:11: Can it get any worse than this?
00:45:12: Like well maybe were just creating situations so difficult That are like IN OUR FACES especially with climate change and the extinction crisis, but the politics over here in this country.
00:45:24: It's like we want to see it!
00:45:31: We want to transform it...we wouldn't be making it this loud for ourselves otherwise.
00:45:37: so I feel like you know?
00:45:39: It's the way home.
00:45:41: Don't be afraid or at least that's pointless to say.
00:45:44: everybody is afraid of their shadows but find understand that its lovelessness inviting love And that the more we can touch into that shadow, the greater our heart's capacity for compassion becomes.
00:45:58: The more we could hold to world as it is in a peaceful place of compassionate non-reactive love which I think are way out but has start with ourselves.
00:46:13: so then you find enough support be able give yourself gift recovering your self.
00:46:21: Can you value yourself enough to go find a support that's needed?
00:46:25: To recover your self.
00:46:28: That's the question.
00:46:31: Thank You Claire.
00:46:32: perfect question to end with.
00:46:35: thank you so much for yeah, for this download
00:46:40: pleasure.
00:46:40: Thank you for giving me space to be the river.
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